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Very nice fila pup for sale

aceoutdoor

Well-Known Member
I was not saying in anyway that the puppies or parents from that litter were good or bad, they may be great. What I was saying is they are certainly not described accurately by either ignorance by the breeder or straight dishonesty. Those dogs are certainly not 100% Cafib. And 90% of Cafib breeders would consider the presence of what they consider to be some of the most corrupt and mixbred blood around and would never cross with that blood or knowingly sell a puppy to someone who would cross with that blood. Most Cafibbers are fanatics, remember that.


You should not delete anything, the truth in this breed should be exposed.
 
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OC-Fila

Member
Mountainfila did you see the pedigree with Borghetto in it? I think the original breeder is being very dishonest pushing the 100% Pure Cafib, knowing well they are not at all. "have an excellent CAFIB Fila family tree......And not the "Americano" cross bred monsters". I believe he posting all the Cafib links on here, OC-Fila? Why would you tell people these are pure Cafib pups when they are not, just be honest.



#1 "A little knowledge is a dangerous thing" Meaning: A small amount of knowledge can mislead people into thinking, they are an expert, when in fact they are not, but often emotionally biased and not intellectually honest.

#2 Its a known, known, and historical fact that not all the Fila's Borghetto's Kennel were black or mixed (mongrels). To further drive this point, Borghetto had Fila's that would have passed an analysis for phenotype for CAFIB. The beginnings of CAFIB were in many ways because of this very issue, how to know a dog that looked like an original Fila had been mixed with other breeds. Its the same problem today except worse, because of Fila puppy mills such as yourself. Its "very dishonest" when a breeder promotes pure bred Filas from ancient lines. When in fact they are mixed mongrels. CAFIB has the highest strictest standards for analysis. And because the phenotype standards and temp standards are so high. A lot of dogs get rejected. That is the exact reason why, non CAFIB Fila breeders which make up the bulk of Filas being sold like LionsDen, Granada, MountainFila etc. Troll these forums and make disparaging comments about CAFIB. So they can get the sale $$. So in other words,Its all about the maximizing puppy profits $$ and not at all about preservation of the Fila. Why...Because preservation is a tedious task, that is expensive $$ and time consuming. Time is money, so these profiteer's (breeder's) invented there own standard, for the only purpose, but to line there own pockets w/ $$, with the least amount of time & $$ invested. Its a smart move if your a huckster, but its not noble, nor is it right if your sincere about perpetuation of the pure-bred Fila..

#3 These puppies I have, would qualify for CAFIB phenotype. That is why I put CAFIB "type". It will be up to the owner to get them evaluated by a CAFIB judge. And there is CAFIB showing on the east coast in late fall.
 

mountainfila

Well-Known Member
#1 "A little knowledge is a dangerous thing" Meaning: A small amount of knowledge can mislead people into thinking, they are an expert, when in fact they are not, but often emotionally biased and not intellectually honest.

#2 Its a known, known, and historical fact that not all the Fila's Borghetto's Kennel were black or mixed (mongrels). To further drive this point, Borghetto had Fila's that would have passed an analysis for phenotype for CAFIB. The beginnings of CAFIB were in many ways because of this very issue, how to know a dog that looked like an original Fila had been mixed with other breeds. Its the same problem today except worse, because of Fila puppy mills such as yourself. Its "very dishonest" when a breeder promotes pure bred Filas from ancient lines. When in fact they are mixed mongrels. CAFIB has the highest strictest standards for analysis. And because the phenotype standards and temp standards are so high. A lot of dogs get rejected. That is the exact reason why, non CAFIB Fila breeders which make up the bulk of Filas being sold like LionsDen, Granada, MountainFila etc. Troll these forums and make disparaging comments about CAFIB. So they can get the sale $$. So in other words,Its all about the maximizing puppy profits $$ and not at all about preservation of the Fila. Why...Because preservation is a tedious task, that is expensive $$ and time consuming. Time is money, so these profiteer's (breeder's) invented there own standard, for the only purpose, but to line there own pockets w/ $$, with the least amount of time & $$ invested. Its a smart move if your a huckster, but its not noble, nor is it right if your sincere about perpetuation of the pure-bred Fila..

#3 These puppies I have, would qualify for CAFIB phenotype. That is why I put CAFIB "type". It will be up to the owner to get them evaluated by a CAFIB judge. And there is CAFIB showing on the east coast in late fall.

Well i have to laugh at that statement as in over 20 years i had 2 litters , the first litter will all be dead and the 2nd litter is right here with me, so were are all these litters im selling, sorry i GAVE one pup out of this litter to a friend that lives down the street and the other 3 are here with me. Im far from a troll Amy , ya i know who you are, one of Juans cronies.
 

aceoutdoor

Well-Known Member
#1 "A little knowledge is a dangerous thing" Meaning: A small amount of knowledge can mislead people into thinking, they are an expert, when in fact they are not, but often emotionally biased and not intellectually honest.

#2 Its a known, known, and historical fact that not all the Fila's Borghetto's Kennel were black or mixed (mongrels). To further drive this point, Borghetto had Fila's that would have passed an analysis for phenotype for CAFIB. The beginnings of CAFIB were in many ways because of this very issue, how to know a dog that looked like an original Fila had been mixed with other breeds. Its the same problem today except worse, because of Fila puppy mills such as yourself. Its "very dishonest" when a breeder promotes pure bred Filas from ancient lines. When in fact they are mixed mongrels. CAFIB has the highest strictest standards for analysis. And because the phenotype standards and temp standards are so high. A lot of dogs get rejected. That is the exact reason why, non CAFIB Fila breeders which make up the bulk of Filas being sold like LionsDen, Granada, MountainFila etc. Troll these forums and make disparaging comments about CAFIB. So they can get the sale $$. So in other words,Its all about the maximizing puppy profits $$ and not at all about preservation of the Fila. Why...Because preservation is a tedious task, that is expensive $$ and time consuming. Time is money, so these profiteer's (breeder's) invented there own standard, for the only purpose, but to line there own pockets w/ $$, with the least amount of time & $$ invested. Its a smart move if your a huckster, but its not noble, nor is it right if your sincere about perpetuation of the pure-bred Fila..

#3 These puppies I have, would qualify for CAFIB phenotype. That is why I put CAFIB "type". It will be up to the owner to get them evaluated by a CAFIB judge. And there is CAFIB showing on the east coast in late fall.




Wow. You are just another blind Cafib tool. I am not biased by any club. I probably have more Cafib blood in my dogs than you have. You have no idea what you are talking about. Look at the situation you put a puppy in right now. The guy barely has a backyard. He has full grown male stuffed into a little cage. You live nearby did you even bother to check out the living situation beforehand. If you care so much take the puppy back and give him his money back, instead of him letting it go to anyone “with cash in handâ€. I*m a puppy miller? You don*t even know me fool. Who*s the one selling puppies on craigslist, giving breeding rights to people who have no business even owning a Fila much less breeding them. I am no self appointed expert, but let me tell you son I am honest and have more integrity when it comes to breeding this awesome breed than you have the ability to comprehend. Mountainfila makes up the bulk of puppies being sold? She has had 1 litter in the last 10 years that I know of. She has been in the breed forever and has a lot of knowledge, but for you to lump her in with LD shows how ignorant and agenda driven you really are.

Don*t turn your own dishonesty and ignorance towards me. Maybe I refused to sell you or a friend of yours a puppy and ruffled some feathers, hurt some feelings. Sorry, that what responsible breeders do. I would give away a puppy to a good, proper home before I would take a dollar from a hustler like you. And it*s a shame someone gave you breeding rights to their dogs.
 

aceoutdoor

Well-Known Member
Looks like Cafib has a west coast mouthpiece to match the east coast one. And BTW "OC-FIla" I am very well versed in the Borghetto line. I am just surpised it is actually identified in the pedigree and not ****************************** magicaly deleted, to "keep it pure".
 

angelbears

Well-Known Member
.Because preservation is a tedious task, that is expensive $$ and time consuming. Time is money, so these profiteer's (breeder's) invented there own standard, for the only purpose, but to line there own pockets w/ $$, with the least amount of time & $$ invested. Its a smart move if your a huckster, but its not noble, nor is it right if your sincere about perpetuation of the pure-bred Fila.

This statement is beyond laughable! You are the one with a pup in the hands of a wanna be thug, who is now trying to get rid of it. If you believe this statement why haven't YOU bought it back and why in the hell would you ever sell to someone like that. A visit to his webpage tells the whole story.

Ace and Mountain Fila have spent many hours on this forum helping new fila owners with their dogs. Where have you been? You show up only to try and sell pups. Sounds like you are the one who is in it to only make money.
 

aceoutdoor

Well-Known Member
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This is your idea of a proper home for a Fila. You've got alot of nerve dude. Your no better than Juan selling to some of the trash he does. Stay out of our breed.
 

Tubarao'smom

Well-Known Member
Well i have to laugh at that statement as in over 20 years i had 2 litters , the first litter will all be dead and the 2nd litter is right here with me, so were are all these litters im selling, sorry i GAVE one pup out of this litter to a friend that lives down the street and the other 3 are here with me. Im far from a troll Amy , ya i know who you are, one of Juans cronies.

I can promise your mountainfila that this is not Amy, who happens to be a very nice and very knowledgeable individual, not saying that OC-fila is not just want to clear this up.
 

IronEliteKennels

Active Member
Wanna be thug by all means what makes you judge my character about that. Your a ignorant person who more than likely is a racist. And inverted time on this forum ???? This is exactly what happens to people when they have media to vent because they are insecure people who can't et out in the world and vent as human beings it's a sad case that people enjoy talking crap about other people and what they do so they can feel special about themselves you are a disgrace to humanity!!!!!
 

chuckorlando

Well-Known Member
So you call someone belligerent and immature. Then call them a retard? AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Theres video's floating around this site of a cafib show. Every dog passed and 90% were straight up trash. So bad even dogman could only say "those dogs are green" ahahahahahaha Like you get a warm up home invasion. I respect Juan and bet we could have a good time over some beer. But like all you die hard cafibs, he's bat shit crazy and 100% full of shit. The bad part is you folks dont see the flaw in your theory. And it's just that, a theory. Not facts at all. It's a ideology that sounds great to read. Then the humans and their "looking out for the Fila" throws it all in the trash.
Your a belligerent fool for even making a comment like that. I argue like a middle-schooler a immature person would say something like that . But yea broccoli you are a retard just like bh-k9 words of advise don't be ignorant!!!!
 

chuckorlando

Well-Known Member
We are like our dogs. No matter the side your on, if you own a fila your either like your dog or just did not know what you were getting. Some exceptions may apply
I'm getting the feeling that you Fila people are crazy!

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cinnamon roll

Super Moderator
Super Moderator
I really don't want to shut this down, so this is my ONE warning that we DO NOT tolerate personal attacks on members.