What not to do at a dog show (SAO Dogs)

[ruthcatrin]

I also disagree that the brown and white dog was "out of control" seem like a normal reaction for that caliber of dog. But others will find something wrong with it and breed it out.

He was out of control in that he wasn't responding to her at all. But its not an unusual sort of reaction for the dog type no. And I could see it coming even before the white-brown dog started to move. I can't image that there weren't other signs before the video started.

 

[AKBull]

Think I found the original Facebook page it came from.
"Central Asian Shepherd Ch-Yuzbashev and Tohmed of Alexandrova Sloboda"

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=376586015743991

 

[kbuchanan66]

Ya that guy just kind of was like "Meh let them work it out"... Crazy nut!

At least the woman has sense to try and pull her dog back. I agree that she should have redirected him right away. ALL the warning signs were there. If you know that your dog is a High Calibre fighter or Aggressor, Why are you not on high alert or at least assesing each situation or potential situation?

 

[Duetsche_Doggen]

IMO I still only see the environment out of control, not the dog. Dog was doing what was instinctively wired, in an "un-natural" setting.

Curious to the beginning of the video also.

 

[DMikeM]

Yep that's it. Ok just watched it again. What happens is they are going to do the walk around, the B/W dog leads off and gives the Br/W a crap look just as the woman starts her walk. I think the Br/W takes this as a go ahead and the dog does whats natural for it.
Of course he is out of control. In control would have been listening to the handler and stopping in his tracks.
I don't condone dog fighting at all but these dogs are made for it. inches of thick fur protection and shear mass with power behind it.

 

[mountainfila]

I agree with Rugers-Kris its not a size issue its an owner issue. To me it appeared the brown and white dog showed lack of respect for the owner/handler.

I also disagree that the brown and white dog was "out of control" seem like a normal reaction for that caliber of dog. But others will find something wrong with it and breed it out.

Also dont forget these are a livestock guardian breed and most of the time these dogs are taken from the farms to these shows, so i dont think alot of these dogs would have any obedience training, let alone a bond with its owner. Neither of the handlers looked like they owned the dogs, the dogs gave no respect to either of them.

 

[Duetsche_Doggen]

These dogs are idependent thinkers, and their own problem sovlers. I'm sure they will listen to an extent, but with that dog being in "the zone" he took matters in his own paws, as typical. I believe people need to respect these dogs being in what they are, what they were bred for, and what they can do.

 

[Duetsche_Doggen]

Also dont forget these are a livestock guardian breed and most of the time these dogs are taken from the farms to these shows, so i dont think alot of these dogs would have any obedience training, let alone a bond with its owner. Neither of the handlers looked like they owned the dogs, the dogs gave no respect to either of them.

Yeap, beat me too it

 

[Rugers-Kris]

Yep! That is exactly my point. The two people weren't paying attention to VERY obvious signs and had they been....the whole damn thing could have been avoided.

He was out of control in that he wasn't responding to her at all. But its not an unusual sort of reaction for the dog type no. And I could see it coming even before the white-brown dog started to move. I can't image that there weren't other signs before the video started.

 

[DMikeM]

Actually after talking to someone that is involved with this activity he told me that the dogs that work do not look like these guys in the video. The dogs in this video are still pretty much yard dog that spend much of their lives on chains but don't spend much time doing flock work. The ones that work are usually pretty beat up and get honors for their scars when they are shown.

 

[Duetsche_Doggen]

Not surprised there are plenty of fight videos out there on YT......:/

 

[DMikeM]

Not surprised there are plenty of fight videos out there on YT......:/

That part is just sad.

 

[mountainfila]

Not surprised there are plenty of fight videos out there on YT......:/

I think its only been recently that they have been turned into fighting dogs, like in the past 30-50 years i think and they also have a temp similar to the fila in its being aloof to strangers. They were originaly bred to protect the sheep flocks from predators not dog fighting.

 

[DMikeM]

I think its only been recently that they have been turned into fighting dogs, like in the past 30-50 years i think and they also have a temp similar to the fila in its being aloof to strangers. They were originaly bred to protect the sheep flocks from predators not dog fighting.

This is pretty much true. They had a job to do and were not family dogs like the other mastiff type breeds. Sit on a rock and watch for wolves, that's my job.

 

[Duetsche_Doggen]

No argument here, but aside from the "defense" test, dog fighting another popular genre. Very rarely have I seen a video of them performing their true intent. That I find sad.

 

[VentiandMe]

Meh that video irritates me very much. Bunch of dumbasses...what's up with that moron guy? I wish the dog would have bit that idiot...standing there like that. I wander if he was scared to get bit maybe?

 

[CeeCee]

Okay, that guy was completely useless from beginning to end. If I'm not mistaken his dog was the one that started giving the stink eye.

Man, if you're gonna have your dogs in that kind of proximity to one another, you better always be checking in and paying attention to what your dog is doing.

 

[broccolini]

This is a an example of how tiny women should not show giant dogs.

What about tiny men?

 

[ruthcatrin]

What about tiny men?

Just useless ones

 

[DMikeM]

I guess that would depend on training too. Same for the women, if either had good dog skills both could do find, big or little. Maybe I need to change my wording to untrained tiny women?