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8 month female Cane Corso rescue in AZ

ZoeOwner

Banned
Hello world.

Brought Zoe home on Sunday. I figured it was okay to miss church to get her home from the shelter a day early. She is a female Cane Corso rescue.

She was a stray before the shelter found her. At just under 8 months she is underweight at fewer than 70 pounds; the vet actually cancelled her first spay surgery because she was too underweight, so I had to wait an extra week for her to get her surgery and bring her home.

I didn't plan on adopting a Corso and had never heard of the breed. I initially wanted to get a Ridgeback puppy from a breeder, but then I got to thinking why am I going to go out and get a dog who is obviously going to be well-cared-for anyways, and leave some other dog in the shelter? I contacted a few local rescue orgs and was paired up with Zoe.

I'm not worried about her being underweight: with a healthy diet she'll grow as fast as is healthy for her. She certainly doesn't lack for energy and 70 pounds of puppy is...fun? That's one word to use. Eventually she'll get free access to the back yard to let off some energy; here in Arizona for most of the year we can keep the door open, except in the hot summer and nobody sane wants to go running around then anyways. Right now though we're still in the "learning the rules of the house" stage so she stays on leash most of the time. She was house trained at the shelter by default and has been super good about that except for one accident the first day that was not her fault: she had diarrhea at the shelter and on her first day home I didn't get her outside fast enough after feeding her. We are also working on learning where Zoe's bed is (crate) and where it is not (couch) and what Zoe is allowed to chew (presents she gets for chewing - not shoes!)

With enough walks and playtime throughout the day she is usually pretty good about settling down, but sometimes she needs to go in her crate for a time out. I work from home a lot and she is very affectionate and sometimes wants lots of attention. She knows "sit" - sort of - and "down" - kind of - but we are definitely working on "leave it" and especially "off". Perhaps it is just that she wants to be helpful when she sees me typing at the computer, but she likes to put her front paws up on the keyboard and while I'm sure she has a lot to say, she's not a very good speller and I don't think my colleagues would appreciate her emails the way I do. So that is something to work on. I am glad that she is still just as happy and affectionate as the first time I went into her pen at the shelter; she just needs to learn that a guy needs his space every once in a while and doesn't want a girl crowding him all the time. Also, the shelter vet thought she would probably grow to 120 pounds eventually. Now, that can look extremely good on some girls, but it's really not very ladylike to go jumping up on everybody you meet and lick their face. Fortunately we can work on her manners because Zoe loves to have the opportunity to practice responding to commands so she can get steak treats. And I like girls who like steak.

We'll see though. If she turns out to be a Ravens fan she's going back to the shelter next week.
 

Forrest1018

Well-Known Member
Welcome!! Sounds like you and Zoe are gonna have a lot of fun together!
I have an 11 month old ridgeback, a cane corso mix thats 6 months old, and a 3 month old mastiff mix. I went the breeder route with our first dog, then decided, like you, that I really wanted to rescue a dog from a shelter. I somehow wound up with 2 :) My 6 month old was also quite underweight, but in the 3 weeks we've had him he's gone from 50-61 lbs, so he is well on his way to being a desirable weight!

Erica
 
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Mooshi's Mummy

Well-Known Member
Love your post and introduction of Zoe, it sounds like you two were made for each other. I hope you have a long and happy life together full of badly spelt emails, kisses, steak and shoes without teeth marks.
 

ZoeOwner

Banned
1 day into membership and I have been told that I have "insulted" other member(s). No information on who was insulted or why. I have read, and responded, to several comments by dog owners who simply evidence that they are unqualified to own a pet: free-feeding a breed known for dangerous bloat risk, making multiple dogs share the same food bowl and severely underfeeding them, trying to overfeed and pack weight on a puppy, using police-dog training tactics on a family pet, being completely uninformed regarding how medications work and what they do, completely uninformed about basic dog care and feeding information that any qualified veterinarian could tell them, and so on. Were these people "insulted" when I pointed out that their behavior might result in crippling or killing their dog? If I point out that someone is ignorant of basic facts available on the ASPCA web site, is this an "insult"? If I point out that someone, based on their own description of the environment and manner in which they keep and train (or don't train) their dog is probably not going to be able to care for the animal effectively and ought to find it a better home - is this "insulting"? Thin-skinned people who can't handle some basic profanity-free criticism probably shouldn't pretend to be qualified owners of a giant breed. I love my dog, but I am severely unimpressed by this forum thus far. I do hope that what I have seen so far is not representative of mastiff owners on this forum. Owning a pet, and in particular a pet so human-centered as a dog, is a great responsibility which deserves to be treated as such. While there are certainly plenty of people posting on here who do so and from whom I would hope to learn how to better care for my dog, I also see quite a few members who seem to treat their dogs as little more than a fashion accessory. These people are reprehensible and it is the responsibility of the rest of us to tell them so and to shame them into shaping up their act.

I did receive and greatly appreciate a prompt response, from someone who is presumably an administrator, to my query regarding what, exactly, I had written that was deemed "insulting". I will of course not post their private response to a public forum, but the following is my reply, with clarifications in (parentheses):

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(In response to someone excitedly bragging that their dog would have its ears cropped in a few days, I called the practice of ear-cropping "barbaric".)

Well, ear-cropping for example is banned in multiple countries and there is zero medical evidence that it provides any benefit to the dog whatsoever. So, yes, it's a barbaric practice. Is it the word "barbaric" that is insulting? I was not aware that this word was profane. Which words are not allowed on this forum?

(I suggested that someone hu spelt lik this and was woefully ignorant regarding basic facts about the Cane Corso available on, for example, the AKC webpage for the breed, ought to learn to spell and type properly when posting a question on a public forum.)

I speak and write the English language. This forum is written in English. Someone who has an internet account and is posting on a forum as the owner of a dog ought to be either a responsible adult or learning how to be one under the guidance of their parents or guardians, who ought to be monitoring their care of the dog including their posts on this forum. Part of being a responsible adult in modern English-speaking society is learning how to communicate properly, which includes basic spelling and grammar. Some people have genetic or other reasons for being incapable of proper written communication. Technological aids to help in proper spelling are widely available and free. Of course nobody is perfect and a few misspellings here and there are natural, but if someone can't be bothered to write recognizable sentences and attempt to spell basic everyday words properly, this is evidence that they are lazy and unconscientious. These are not character traits of a responsible pet owner. Of course while literacy rates in the English-speaking world are quite high, there are still people who have trouble reading and writing and are working hard to learn to do so better. Simply responding "learn to spell and type properly" lets such a person know that they need to do a bit more studying. Telling someone that they are not doing something properly that they are in fact not doing properly is not an insult, it is simply telling the truth.

I would never condone nor, I hope, engage in slander or needlessly derogatory comments about someone else. Honest criticism is neither. Of course being insulted and feeling insulted are two different things. I note that this website includes a user tool to "ignore" other members. If someone is psychologically incapable of handling my criticism or simply doesn't find any value in my comments, I would think it would be a simple matter for them to block/ignore my future comments. Alternatively, they could respond to engage me in dialogue and explain their point of view, why they disagree with my factual claims, and rationally explain to me what they don't like about my comment or my mode of address. Responsible adults normally handle these differences in such a manner. This ensures that people in authority, such as forum administrators, do not have to waste their time looking out for "hurt feelings", and are free to watch out for real danger, such as people using forums to post child pornography or something equally reprehensible. If this forum allows members to register complaints simply because they feel insulted by my comments, regardless of the factual content of said comments, then I have no interest whatsoever in continuing my membership. I joined this forum in order to find and exchange facts about how to best care for my pet. I can't imagine there would be any net benefit from a conversation which is instead about whether or not members "feel" "insulted".
 

Smart_Family

Dog Food Guru
You obviously didn't read the rules when you joined. Many people come here because they are uneducated about their dogs or their future dogs. We aim to educate while not making them feel like idiots. Also we do have members who speak a language other than English as their first language so nitpicking spelling and typing is rather rude. As far as the ear cropping and raw feeding you can state that you disagree but telling someone they shouldn't own a dog or that raw is wrong, doesn't fly here as many of our members do crop ears and do feed raw. You really haven't made the best impression for your first day and if you would like to leave please feel free. However if you continue to post in the manner you have thus far you will be banned and that's not up for debate. Thanks and have a super day!
 

Cody

Well-Known Member
Hmm, interesting.
Ear cropping as "barbaric" is a factual claim and not an opinion?
I think the insult came from "who sold you a dog"
There are several of us who have put years of research into the CC, the history and the breed in general. We are trying to maintain the historical accuracy of our breed. I understand from your post that you have just discovered it, quite by accident while adopting one. Kudo's to you for doing such, that said coming onto a forum, WITHOUT any real knowledge of the breed (besides google that is) and speaking how you did in regards to a medical procedure that does minimize the risk of ear infections among other things can be found insulting, especially when you personalized it like you did.
Now personally was I offended, nah, I am used to remarks as such. But the poster was a new forum member sharing his excitement, you don't seem to like it when you are told you are being insulting, do you think that person enjoyed your comment?
We are adults, open dialogue is encouraged. You may be better off to try to start a thread about your OPINIONS on cropping more so then jumping on a poster who did...
 

jcook

Well-Known Member
Interesting how you seem to be sooo concerned and educated about the proper growth in a mastiff, yet you have scheduled her to be spayed at 8 months.
 

broccolini

Well-Known Member
1 day into membership and I have been told that I have "insulted" other member(s). No information on who was insulted or why. I have read, and responded, to several comments by dog owners who simply evidence that they are unqualified to own a pet...


Yes, I can see how it would be a real mystery to you. I mean, you're just here to offer your honest criticism about everything. It's not your fault that all those unqualified pet owners got their feelings hurt. Really, they should just be glad that you took the time to enlighten them with your vast knowledge. I mean, it probably took you a long time to Google all that info about Corsos and dog nutrition. Just because those people might have actually owned CCs for years or fed their dogs raw diets for years doesn't mean they actually know anything. Truly, we are lucky to have you here. We really need someone to filter all the information on the internet and feed it to us in small bites. That's so much more useful than listening to others drone on about their real-world experience.

And as for those people who can't spell, well we don't need them anyway. Especially the ones who might be from other countries. *shudder* I know when I post on websites that are in other languages, I make a point to learn that language perfectly before chiming in. It's just common courtesy, really.
 

jcook

Well-Known Member
Yes, I can see how it would be a real mystery to you. I mean, you're just here to offer your honest criticism about everything. It's not your fault that all those unqualified pet owners got their feelings hurt. Really, they should just be glad that you took the time to enlighten them with your vast knowledge. I mean, it probably took you a long time to Google all that info about Corsos and dog nutrition. Just because those people might have actually owned CCs for years or fed their dogs raw diets for years doesn't mean they actually know anything. Truly, we are lucky to have you here. We really need someone to filter all the information on the internet and feed it to us in small bites. That's so much more useful than listening to others drone on about their real-world experience.

And as for those people who can't spell, well we don't need them anyway. Especially the ones who might be from other countries. *shudder* I know when I post on websites that are in other languages, I make a point to learn that language perfectly before chiming in. It's just common courtesy, really.

:lolbangtable::lolbangtable::lolbangtable:
 

Mojo

Well-Known Member
Well said by all. This is and "open" forum which provides all members and opportunity to voice their opinions as well as excitement on all issues regarding our beautiful Mastiffs. We pose questions and very helpful answers to lend a helping and courteous hand to our fellow members. It is unfortunate that occasionally (read: very rarely) someone joins who really just wants to be viewed as all knowing but in doing so just reveal their ignorance and ability to rudely ostracize (truly hope spelled this and used this correctly) others so quickly. If an individual wants to express an opinion or their displeasure with a practice such as ear cropping they should post a separate post and than they can simply be ignored!
 

BlackShadowCaneCorso

Super Moderator
Staff member
Well said by all, with a bit of humor thrown in to make my day.

Was I offended personally by your replies, no as the first one I read as the one on the cropping post and wrote you off as someone that I probably wasn't going to waste much time discussing dog issues with as you seem to have all the knowledge you need. The rest of us on here are still learning, perhaps we can someday all join various forums with our all knowing answers and the only way to do things that is right (being your way) and be rude and insult others and expect it to be a board that welcomes us warmly???!!!! You are un-impressed with our forum but to be quite frank I would say the feeling is pretty mutual. I certainly hope that you have all the answers when it comes to your Cane Corso as I would hate to see you have to lower yourself and ask for advise from someone that is nowhere near the expect on everything that you are!

signed the owner of some barbarically cropped Cane Corso
 
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