Severe Human Agression Help Needed

[masteneo]

She is neither food nor praise driven. During what training I have done with her it has always been rewarded with a pat on the head or body when she does well.
Walking her down the road isn't done much because she fears sounds such as passing cars and too much activity going on around her and she tries to pull me home. I resist for awhile but then give in and take her back to where she feels safe
As for the vet I actually have to drug and muzzle her before I take her
She gets alot of exercise as I have a 100 acre farm and we go for 1 at least 1/2hr walk a day and at least 3x a day we're outside for 10mins with her off leash and running around freely


man i get the feeling there may be some anxiety she has from past or maybe she has a serious nervousness issue. Its not unheard of. Had a buddy with a German Shepard that was all friendly and wagged his tell 99% of the time. But at random he would tense up, his eyes would gloss over, and bite whatever, male human was closest to him. He was a police K-9 , so you know the closest males to him always had badges on. After biting them , he would sit and wag his tail like he had no idea anything happened. This happened to his owner , my buddy Kile, then my other buddy Jay , then the 3rd time Sheriff said Arno had to go retire. He suffered from some unknown kinda anxiety or fear. we never found out. And your story reminds me of Kile and Arno. I would really like to get more insight into these kinda mental issues in dogs.

 

[taisa899]

I really wish I could get more info on her past. I know that the long hours she spent locked in a crate didn't help her confidence any since she's scared of anything new till I walk up to it and call her over. She will approach it slowly and then sniff it and then she has no issues with it.


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[chuckorlando]

Ah, semantics... I was unaware we should coddle our children. ahahahahaha. My dogs are like my kids. But I dont kiss their booboo's. I also dont feed my son on the back porch with a dog bowl. Some folks consider a flat tire severe while others dont think a blown engine is a big deal.

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You know what you got on your hands. Go read some Fila threads and see how to handle the dog in the mean time. Keep working on it and I would think chances are you can work it out. But if not, treat the dog like a Fila owner would treat a fila

 

[chuckorlando]

You know what you got on your hands. Go read some Fila threads and see how to handle the dog in the mean time. Keep working on it and I would think chances are you can work it out. But if not, treat the dog like a Fila owner would treat a fila

 

[excelrn]

There are definitely more options for helping to make this dog's quality of life better. I'm having my own issues with my pups and family, but euthanasia isn't in the room, much less on the table. Check this out for additional optimism:
[video=youtube;pL13n-yYy8I]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pL13n-yYy8I[/video]

I agree that a relatively short term medication trial is an option worth exploring, to see if it helps with longer term training. I know there's been stuff in the media about dogs on psych meds, but I think if it helps to open a pathway to effective training, it would be worth a try- if your vet feels it's safe and a trainer is on board to help with the training.

 

[diverdan169]

I enjoy this forum. This has been an excellent discussion and shows a multitude of views. I hope all goes well for Jim and his dog and I look forward to getting to know all of you beter and learning more about Mastiff issues. Thanks. Dan

 

[musicdeb]

I've been following this post. I hope you're able to work out the fear issues with your pup but as others have stated, you are not aware of the issue and you take necessary precautions. I know Titan doesn't like men, especially black men, so I avoid contact with men on the streets. Introducing him to a man in the house is a major event which requires lots of patience and time. It can be done but requires patience and time. I'm not talking a few hours or a few days, it can take up to a month for Titan to accept a man in the house.

 

[Duetsche_Doggen]

That may be the case, however treating a Corso as a child in most cases will lead to serious dominance issues.
I love this breed, I adore it, but seeing posts like this make me cringe.
I have seen how they end too many times
Yes there are many world views, coddling our pets and humanizing them however is a VERY western concept.
I also believe I said their use of comparing a child who inflicts serious damage with a Cane Corso is absurd, no reflection on how much one loves their dog...

DEAR GOD yes. I'm not saying I don't love on my dogs but I DO recognize that they are are well....dogs. I wish people would understand that the next time they complain about people that don't conform to the "norm" of dog ownership. Taboo indeed.

OP its obvious that you LOVE this dog and have your heart set on doing what's best for her. Despite her issues. I don't have any thing to offer but I wish you the best.

 

[bluebutterfly]

I have no advice for you on this issue, nore do i wish to give my opinion on the matter.

however, i will say... whatever you decide to do.. Always remember that even after successful training at the end of the day you ARE aware that your dog has the potential to seriously injure someone or worse. Do always keep her safe from herself. Never allow her near small children, even ones she seems fine with. It only takes one second to change your life forever... Better safe then sorry. Just my thought.

 

[Cody]

You know what you got on your hands. Go read some Fila threads and see how to handle the dog in the mean time. Keep working on it and I would think chances are you can work it out. But if not, treat the dog like a Fila owner would treat a fila

The difference here Chuck is this is not a Fila. It is NOT a confident, stable well adjusted dog who's correct temp is to be... Well... A Fila.
This is a seriously unstable fearful dog that is a liability, no dog (or person for that matter) wants to live with that much fear and anxiety.
As Bluebutterfly said this is the OP's responsibility to keep people safe, and the dog as well.

 

[chuckorlando]

And thats exactly my point. If the dog is not going to be polite, and keeping the dog is the only option, you must protect others. So you treat it like a fila. High fence, muzzle, maybe double leash, secured location when folks are over, care opening and closing doors, etc.

 

[taisa899]

And thats exactly my point. If the dog is not going to be polite, and keeping the dog is the only option, you must protect others. So you treat it like a fila. High fence, muzzle, maybe double leash, secured location when folks are over, care opening and closing doors, etc.

She is making progress. She dosn't react to people she has seen before immediately but she does still react. Time and patience

 

[chuckorlando]

Thats awesome. Good job for both of you I'd say

 

[Duetsche_Doggen]

Good to hear OP.

 

[ruthcatrin]

She is making progress. She dosn't react to people she has seen before immediately but she does still react. Time and patience

Sweet! And yes, lots of time I imagine.

 

[joshuagough]

Good news, keep up the fight!

 

[musicdeb]

*clapping hands* Bravo!

 

[taisa899]

She's still scared of the sound of lots of traffic and runs to the back door when she hears it and stands on the steps. Now instead of letting her inside I continue to stand out in the yard and call her. Eventually she comes to me and stands beside me. before she wouldn't ever come off the porch after running to it

 

[Mooshi's Mummy]

So pleased to hear baby steps of progress are being made. You can go far with baby steps, it just takes a little longer to get there.

 

[ruthcatrin]

She's still scared of the sound of lots of traffic and runs to the back door when she hears it and stands on the steps. Now instead of letting her inside I continue to stand out in the yard and call her. Eventually she comes to me and stands beside me. before she wouldn't ever come off the porch after running to it

Good! Baby steps, thats what it takes, but every step counts. As she grows more and more comfortable work yourself closer to the road.

Were you ever able to connect up with the guy with the corsos?