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10wk old DDB pup - our first mastiff! Tips appreciated

DDBMilo's_mom

New Member
After spending nearly two years mourning the death of my beloved boxer/rot mix of 14 years I found a breeder who specialized in Dogue De Bordeuax (my dream dog since I saw Turner & Hooch as a child). Yesterday my husband surprised me with a 10wk old male I'd fallen in love with as an early mother's day gift. The whole family is in love with little Milo (I say little, he's already over 30lbs! Shift+R improves the quality of this image. Shift+A improves the quality of all images on this page.)

I'm very open to any suggestions and tips on starting training with him on the right foot, so far I can tell he's extremely sensitive, but quick to learn and VERY eager to please me. He knocked down our toddler in play this morning and when she cried out, and I responded with a firm "DOWN!" he went to his bed and sulked for a few moments, now he is steering clear of her.
 

musicdeb

Well-Known Member
Welcome and congrats on new baby! You've come to the right place.

First, you want to crate train him. Make sure you have a blanket, stuffed animal (about his size) and white noise (ticking clock or ipod with soft music) so he can sleep. He's used to cuddling with siblings.

Second: you want to keep him in a room with a family member. DDB's need to be near their family members.

Third: you want to start his food regimen. Are you feeding him what the breeder fed him? If yes, ok. If not, you need to do a slow transition to the new food. Mastiffs are allergic to chicken and grain in kibble. Slow transition is to feed 1/4 of new food with 3/4's of old food for 3-4 days. Transition to 1/2 new and 1/2 old foods for 3-4 days. Transition to 3/4 new and 1/4 old for 3-4 days. Transition to 100% new food. If at anytime he has diarrhea, return to former transition amounts until diarrhea stops.

Fourth: You want to keep the leash on him for a few hours each day while in the house so he gets used to it.

Fifth: Keep him away from dog areas because he hasn't had his 2nd set of shots leaving him prone to getting parvo or other illness. Keep him in your yard and place newspapers down where he will walk on the ground. This is very important!

Sixth: Start basic commands. Train for about 5 minutes per day and slowing increase time. Teach one command at a time. Once they master one command, move onto another command.

DDB's are extremely stubborn and if you get frustrated with them, they will shut down. DDB's do not do well with yelling.

Number one command is sit. Teach him to sit, by placing a treat in front of his head and move it to the back causing him to sit to get the treat. When he sits, tell him good sit and give him the treat.

Second command should be "focus/look" This will help you tremendously when he's over 100 lbs. Put him into sit. With a treat in your hand (let him smell it), put the treat up to your eyes and tell him to look or focus. He may only do this for about 1-2 seconds. As soon as he looks at your eyes, tell him good look or good focus and give the treat. DDB 's do not like to look anyone in the eyes for long because that means a challenge to them. Titan is up to 25 seconds of looking at me.

Other commands to teach is stay, come, leave it and drop it.

Puppies should not do any heavy exercise or walking for the first year. Stairs should be maneuvered while on leash (even in the house) especially going down the stairs. DDB's can be very lazy but they still need to exercise. Puppies should not be walked for more than 15-20 minutes and do your best to avoid heavy running or jumping.

DDB's should not be neutered/spayed until 18 months to 2 years. NO MATTER what the vet says. Early neutering can cause growth problems.

Enjoy your baby! Have lots of patience! The pup will reward you with love and loyalty!
 

musicdeb

Well-Known Member
Yes, chicken and grain in the kibble causes skin allergies and ear infections. That was the reason I started feeding Titan the raw diet.
 

musicdeb

Well-Known Member
I forgot to mention that when you are training and if he does not do as you ask, then tell him no no no and redirect back to command in a normal voice. The only time a stern and somewhat loud NO should be used is when they are doing something that can cause harm to themselves or others.

For example, when I'm doing the look at me training with Titan. He will look at me and then his eyes will move to the left or right. I say, "no no no, look at me" and returns to the look at me.

When they do what you want them to do, get all giddy and excited and say "Yes, good look!" I clap, giggle, and sometimes do a little dance. Titan looks at me like, really woman?

Make a big deal out of it when they do want you want. :)
 

Kujo

Well-Known Member
Congrats! And what a wonderful present!

One thing I wanted to comment on that you said in your first post...that he wants to please you, that is spot on!! When you show him that something as simple as sitting on command makes you silly happy, he'll do it over and over cause he WANTS to make you happy. Same applies for the opposite, when you show him what doesn't make you happy, he'll try hard not to repeat it. These guys are so loyal to their family, but they will form a special bond with one person in the family...sounds like this could be you! If so, get ready to have a shadow ;) I know my boy follows me everywhere, even checks on me in the bathroom if I don't close the door all the way lol!



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thedigitalkiwi

Active Member
is chicken OK as part of their raw diet? our female has a pretty bad yeast infection and she is feed raw but that includes a lot of chicken - frames, necks as well as minced.
 

Iymala

Well-Known Member
Chicken is ok in kibble or raw diet if your dog can handle it. Some dogs have food allergies (these can come from poor breeding, vaccinosis, bad luck, etc) and some of the more popular allergies are chicken, corn and wheat. If your dog is not allergic to these then there is no issue feeding them, alto I choose to not feed grains as I do not believe they should be included in the canine diet.

Allergies present themselves in a variety of ways such as itchy skin, yeast infections in ears or on paws, hives, etc. The interesting part about food allergies are they are a result of the immune system malfunctioning. Sometimes they take time to build up and present themselves.
 

musicdeb

Well-Known Member
My experience with Titan and chicken. He stopped eating it about 5 months ago. :( I've noticed since he no longer eats chicken that his gas is a lot less and the black gunk I used to find on his hind legs and face are now disappearing. We still deal with yeast in one of his ears every 6 months or so but I believe chicken is not Titan's best choice of food. Just my experience. Believe I would love it if he could still eat because it's cheaper than what he's eating now.
 

PrycelessDexter

Well-Known Member
CONGRATS on the best Mother's Day present everrr! :) Hope Milo is adjusting well, and I'll definitely reitterate the advice to make a big deal out of when they do something right. You can see the disappointment in Dexter's face when he's not listening to his command, and isn't getting his "happy dance"! lol, also we didn't know much about crate training before this board, but he's doing AMAZING with the tips provided here, and will even go right to this "safe haven" when he's wants to play with his squeeky's. Can't wait to see pictures of the little one!