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American Mastiff x shar pei

ruthcatrin

ruthcatrin

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You need to distinguish between "mastiff" and "molosser". And maybe have a talk with a decent Sharpei breeder or two while you're at it since your pup is 1/2.
 
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dogman#1

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lol, an AKC book said that the Sharpei is a mastiff? well then again the AKC claims that the English bulldog that they show was used for bull baiting, lol. O.K fine, the Sharpei is an excellent family dog and is a mastiff. Congrats! go get one, let him loose in a dog park but make sure that dog park has children in it so you can get the full law suit.
 
Smart_Family

Smart_Family

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A mastiff is a molosser but a molosser is not a mastiff. If that were the case my German shepherd would be a mastiff too. Regardless you have a cute pup.
 
srmorris87

srmorris87

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dogman#1 said:
lol, an AKC book said that the Sharpei is a mastiff? well then again the AKC claims that the English bulldog that they show was used for bull baiting, lol. O.K fine, the Sharpei is an excellent family dog and is a mastiff. Congrats! go get one, let him loose in a dog park but make sure that dog park has children in it so you can get the full law suit.
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I'm just telling you what I read and you're being a jerk about it.
 
cinnamon roll

cinnamon roll

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dogman#1 said:
lol, an AKC book said that the Sharpei is a mastiff? well then again the AKC claims that the English bulldog that they show was used for bull baiting, lol. O.K fine, the Sharpei is an excellent family dog and is a mastiff. Congrats! go get one, let him loose in a dog park but make sure that dog park has children in it so you can get the full law suit.
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Hey isn't that what you do with your Filas??? :)
 
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dogman#1

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srmorris, I am trying not to be a jerk. multiple people are telling you that you are wrong, you misunderstood what you are reading, you dont know what the temperament is going to be like but you dont want to hear it. You want us to agree with you but we know enough not to. Just stop, listen and then if you dont believe research it and ask questions about it... that is how you learn. If you already had all the answers why would you come here and ask for answers to questions you already knew the answers to? in 3 hrs you became an expert in a breed.
 
DennasMom

DennasMom

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Wikipedia lists Shar Pei as one of the Molossoid breeds... they have a LOT of breeds on that list. Including the pug (dutch mastiff) ???!??
Add that to the list of things I never knew!!

Denna is our first non-rescue-unknown-mutt dog, and many on the forum here have mixes and non-mastiffs along with mastiff mixes and purebred dogs, so you won't find discrimination for any individual puppy that way. Really - even with the big discussion here on what IS and IS NOT a mastiff. :)

Denna is also the product of a "home hobby breeder" (aka BYB). She was an "accidental" breeding... "again" (oops?). But, we love her to pieces, and couldn't be happier that she's ours.

Being our first mastiff puppy (sort of, all our mutts have all had big dog in them, so some molossoids from the wiki list... rottie, GSD, pyranees, Great Dane, etc.) we found Denna as a puppy to be MUCH more laid back than our Dane/Lab/X puppy. I think she was more bitey, but that might just be my selective memory. :)

I don't know anything about Shar Pei's. Other than they seem scarier to me... maybe just because they're more protection dogs and not known to be out-going and social? At least that's the impression I have of them. They also have a significant fighting background, which would lend itself to being a "harder" breed to work with. That being said, I have seen a few (but only a few) at the dog park here, and they were all happy-go-lucky puppies (probably well socialized and well trained, too).

Since you're not new to the big guardian breeds (I saw a picture of your GSD), I would think Shelly would be right in what you're used to - other than there are always individual variances within the realm of the individual dog - they're all unique, even within the breeds.

What are you seeing in her puppy-personality that made you go looking & researching?
She probably won't start showing true temperament for another 3-9 months, too.
 
DennasMom

DennasMom

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Jadotha said:
I would say, however, that IF the OP indeed has an offspring of an AM, People on that forum will be deeply upset, and she may not get the warmest reception. There are only 8 approved breeders in this country, and they all ONLY sell their puppies with spay/neuter contracts prohibiting breeding. This is specifically to prevent AM's from falling into the hands of BYB's.
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I thought this was a very interesting item to mention, Jadotha!
But, Srmorris did say it was an "oopsie" breeding.:eek:
 
Jadotha

Jadotha

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I agree, and I think the OP needs to research both breeds. She has a cute puppy that she loves and wants to do best by -- hence her questions. I don't think criticism without advice is helpful (not directed at you, but in general). I have learned a great deal about AMs over the past year, but I have zilch information about SharPeis. I think she needs to investigate this on SharPei forums, too. But I would like us not to abandon her.
 
Jadotha

Jadotha

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Well, that actually brings up another important issue: Srmorris -- If you have to hand raise such a young puppy, you need to prepare for extra bitey-ness. The timeframe from 6 to 8+ weeks is when puppies learn bite inhibition from their mum's and siblings. If you have taken your puppy at such an early age, you will have to work hard at this.
 
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