Best Dog for Illegal immigrant traffic on property?

[Equanimity]

Hi ! Im new here and would like some opinions on what breed would be the best for our needs. Im not wanting to start a political discussion, so please skip this if you feel inclined to take this in a political direction.

We have a mini ranch of 60 acres 70 miles form the Mexico boarder that we will be moving to next month. BOrder patrol is spread too thin and can often take over an hour to respond to a call. We need to figure out if we will be getting another English Mastiff (we do not have a dog right now) or if we will get another breed. We have looked into Fila, and Tibetan mastiff. The Fila worries me because I was told by a breeder that they will not allow visitors on our property, well I want my kids to be able to have friends over, family come visit and the occasional visitor. I don't want a dog who will be indescrimently grouchy and try to eat the good guys. Rather I want a dog who will make a passing illegal move in the opposite direction of our home and family and if one does get on our property they wont stay long.

With that in mind do you all have any suggestions?

 

[cookiedough39]

Well if you want visitors over I would say Cane Corso. Im a little partial to the breed but I believe with that much land they would be your best bet for stability and guarding. Research the breed and Im sure you will understand.

 

[Equanimity]

Your the second person to suggest the Cane Corso to me, I will look into the breed more.

 

[voidecho]

Or a Presa.

 

[Sadies Mom]

African Boerboel?

 

[DMikeM]

All of the above^ CC PC or BB. Problem is though do the border control people need access to your property? Do a dog trespasser is trespasser whether it is illegal or legal. Boerboels are very tolerant to high temps too just make sure the parents do not have the shorter muzzle, look for the farm type originals like Mizpah line Boerboels.

 

[Amanda F.]

Check into a corso, sounds like a good fit. I have 2 and have people over every weekend. We just had a party yesterday with a bunch of teenagers that they had never met before. They did really well once they were introduced. We have had people come in unannounced and the boys let them know real quick that was not ok! Once they realized they were friends they were happy wiggly dogs. Best dogs we have ever owned

 

[shodanusmc]

I agree on the CC having already owned 2 of them. Just make sure you research the breeders and only buy from the best. I am sure the BBand Presa would also do a good job.

 

[Racer X]

I would say four Boerboels. With a pack of them you will not have to worry.

 

[DMikeM]

Boerboels pack together very well.

Coomore Boerboels in Africa has a couple dozen living in an open environment I think.

 

[LizB]

My husband grew up near where you are and his family is still there, dealing with the stray illegal immigrant coming across the property. BB's can handle the heat (this is a huge, huge consideration - they need to be ready to go whenever it is necessary) and they were bred for this kind of work. However, they are a bit heavy and you may need something with slightly more stamina.

Of course, my husband also has always said that a huge pack of chihuahuas would make a great guard dog, lol!

In seriousness, you need a dog that can handle coyotes, and they are very slick about how they deal with dogs. One of them will distract the dog, lead it off away from the property in chase, and the pack will move in for the kill. They are smart and you need a dog that will not give chase when they see a coyote. Coyotes have adapted to humans and pet dogs, so it is no small thing.

The other issue is a big one - cactus. Boerboels may be a bit heavy for running home on three legs with cactus in their paws. Something to look into is Rhodesian ridgebacks, which can handle the heat and are lighter and have a ton of stamina. Our relatives have weimaraners and they know to find a human to get the cactus out of their paws, but they are useless as protection/guarding dogs.

So, maybe Presa is also something to consider, assuming they can handle the heat.

 

[Primehns]

I would say a couple Boerboels, or Anatolian shepherd's, maybe even a couple dobermans from the euro lines. I think your best bet would be the Boerboel, if you get one from a line that doesn't breed too heavy.

 

[allsierra123]

Fila. Just kennel them if you have guests. Its what they are bred to do and you can be sure they will do it.

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[DMikeM]

Anatolians are not bread for guarding against humans. They are flock guardians. I have never heard of one used for home or farm protection. I could be wrong but will have a look.

 

[el gato diablo]

Having lived in Arizona on an acreage for several years...I can say I am very glad I didn't own my CC while in AZ. My Corso boy tries very deliberately to avoid the direct sunlight and the heat of the day. My suggestion for you in Arizona would be a Dogo Argentino...fast, loyal, protective, great with family, white (heat tolerant), and they work well together in a pack. Bred to chase down and control large game...the prey drive is stronger in Dogos than CC. I would stay away from another EM as they are great dogs, but don't really suit your needs. Do some research, they are great dogs...I was down to the CC and Dogo and decided I didn't have enough "work" for the Dogo...but you do.

 

[Equanimity]

Thank you all for the tips! I have emailed a couple breeders to ask some questions and we will see how it goes. Where we will be living is kinda high desert, so its not quite as hot as Phoenix where we are now.

I dont know much about border patrol entering the property, I will be home most of the time, so thats not a worry, i can let them in as needed.

The area is gorgeous, but the governments idea of protecting people is putting up a sign warning of drug traffickers. "Rolls Eyes"

Considering that we may in the future have a vineyard and my art studio that would be open to the public on our property, what would your suggestions be? Just have a kennel for them to go to?

 

[dheepakh]

Like the man said, just go for the dogo or if you want something heavy go for the boerboels. You wouldn't regret it

 

[allsierra123]

Those dogs have high prey drive. Do you have to teach them humans are prey or is that just a given?

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[DMikeM]

White dogs are not good for hot sunny areas the pigmentation allows them to sunburn very quickly. This is why the Boerboel was developed with a very dark pigmentation and black around the face and eyes so as to reduce glare and sunburns. Even black cows and horses do better in sunny areas than white ones. You want a breed that was developed to work in extreme hot climate conditions, Dogo was developed for hot and tropical environments. Also stay clear of dogs with very short muzzles as they tend to stroke out in hot climates.

 

[Batz]

I would go CC, with all that land I figure you would need a quicker mastiff with more energy.