Best Dog for Illegal immigrant traffic on property?

[Tiger12490]

Pit Bulls are out, I used to foster in a rescue and have heard and seen pit bulls that turn on their owners.

Lol what? I couldn't let this comment creep by, then someone looks on this forum who knows nothing about dogs and sees such insanity. Firstly I've owned a couple APBT one was a little gamebred Redboy/Jocko boy, and a shelter rescue.. both males..I hope you know "real dogmen" cull man-biting APBT its not a desired trait and occurs very rarely among the breed. Never did I ever once have them snap at me....some people shouldn't talk on there limited knowledge on a public forum especially being random...what you see are 1) They are trained to do that 2) They are not an Apbt....

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[allsierra123]

Apbt make horrible security dogs. They like people to much. Ignorant people are afraid of them but there is usually no reason to be. I work in the service industry and I have never had a pit of any kind be unfriendly to me

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[fila4me]

Lol what? I couldn't let this comment creep by, then someone looks on this forum who knows nothing about dogs and sees such insanity. Firstly I've owned a couple APBT one was a little gamebred Redboy/Jocko boy, and a shelter rescue.. both males..I hope you know "real dogmen" cull man-biting APBT its not a desired trait and occurs very rarely among the breed. Never did I ever once have them snap at me....some people shouldn't talk on there limited knowledge on a public forum especially being random...what you see are 1) They are trained to do that 2) They are not an Apbt....

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thank you Tiger!!!!I was coming back to comment on this too.had to compose my self first,haven't been able to yet so just saying thank you!!

 

[Equanimity]

I worked with a fellow resuer who's put bull turned on her unprovoked and bit her in the face. I only know what her account was and the numerous local news stories of Holstein being mailed by pit type dogs. It make me not want to risk the breed or similar cross types. I'm not trying to start a debate only relating from my personal experience and knowledge it is not a breed I want.

 

[Smart_Family]

Pits have enough people slandering them as it is. Any dog is capable of turning on its owners. They aren't for everyone, and its good you realize that.

 

[Tiger12490]

thank you Tiger!!!!I was coming back to comment on this too.had to compose my self first,haven't been able to yet so just saying thank you!!

Just was kind of messed up... almost hurt my feelings to hear such nonsense....

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[DMikeM]

Not everyone has the awareness about these breeds like we do. We should give people a little slack and educate rather that castrate. I saw the post and was trying to think of a gentle way to word a reply but was too late.

 

[Tiger12490]

Not everyone has the awareness about these breeds like we do. We should give people a little slack and educate rather that castrate. I saw the post and was trying to think of a gentle way to word a reply but was too late.

Meh I wasnt too bad besides calling them random...which...they kind of are....and if you dont have awareness about the breed then I strongly suggest that you dont speak on them...but the person said they knew "alot" about them...this is getting off subject of the OP I just couldn't see someone talk down on a breed they obviously know little about, though claim they do...

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[Equanimity]

Seriously? As I said its not a breed I like, they don't work with my famil dynamics. My opinion is based soley on my experience with shelter dogs, news stories and stories I hear from friends. Just because it's not a breed for me and I don't like them is no reason to lay into me! I don't like poodles, chihuahuas, or German Shepherds either, you going to make me feel bad about that too?

 

[allsierra123]

Most of those breeds you see in the news stories are not pits at all. A lot of times its some sort of mastiff hybrid. Most mastiffs are guardian breeds and can easily be trained to go after. Which is why people use them to guard. I think people just get a little upset when people make judgments based on second hand info or problematic or traumatized shelter pets.

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[Tiger12490]

Seriously? As I said its not a breed I like, they don't work with my famil dynamics. My opinion is based soley on my experience with shelter dogs, news stories and stories I hear from friends. Just because it's not a breed for me and I don't like them is no reason to lay into me! I don't like poodles, chihuahuas, or German Shepherds either, you going to make me feel bad about that too?

Of course not you didnt randomly make an umbrella statement saying chihuahuas turn on there owners....because as far as I remember your statement said that Pitbulls are out because they turn on there owners wich is just foolishness...I didnt try to make you feel bad...if it did...idk what to tell you your statement was just misleading, and there are people who browse who dont know dogs...that read that crap and believe it...and its just not true and this is why BSL is so big people talk with limited knowledge....

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[Primehns]

What are you doing with a mastiff than? Pitbull's, german shepherds, are easier to handle dog's. So the fellow rescuer, had a pitbull, that she was rescuing i presume, bit her in the face? Have you factored in it may have been the state the dog was in? I have seen many and have experience with Pitbull's, this comment is absurd, and childish. I still can't believe your on a mastiff forum, do you instantly think your dog's aggressive if he lifts his lip? German shepherd's have mauled, rottweilers have mauled, mastiffs have mauled, even small dog's have, it's all the owner's, If you think a pitbull is dangerous, never own a mastiff please, i'd hate for that dog too be labeled something they aren't. I've heard of a German shepherd attack someone, but yet i don't blame the whole breed, just the one incident.
Millions of pitbulls, and a couple attacks a year, really tells you something about their temperament.

 

[Primehns]

Equanimity

What are you doing with a mastiff than? Pitbull's, german shepherds, are easier to handle dog's. So the fellow rescuer, had a pitbull, that she was rescuing i presume, bit her in the face? Have you factored in it may have been the state the dog was in? I have seen many and have experience with Pitbull's, this comment is absurd, and childish. I still can't believe your on a mastiff forum, do you instantly think your dog's aggressive if he lifts his lip? German shepherd's have mauled, rottweilers have mauled, mastiffs have mauled, even small dog's have, it's all the owner's, If you think a pitbull is dangerous, never own a mastiff please, i'd hate for that dog too be labeled something they aren't. I've heard of a German shepherd attack someone, but yet i don't blame the whole breed, just the one incident.<br>Millions of pitbulls, and a couple attacks a year, really tells you something about their temperament.

 

[Primehns]

Sorry double post.

 

[Smart_Family]

Let's bring it back to the original topic guys. If you want to start a separate thread in the controversial section go right ahead.

 

[Primehns]

Yeah your right, but just gotta say if she is scared of German shepherd's and Pitbull's, i can't see her/him having a security mastiff, protecting her property, they are much bigger and intimidating. Telling this person too get any large breed is just weird, if they think all pits turn on owners, they clearly have no experience. But i agree, and will no longer speak about it.

 

[Equanimity]

Umm I never said I was scared of pittbulls or German Shepherds ( I have owned one) I just know that a high prey drive dog doesn't fit with our family dynamics and needs based on my experiences. My German shepherd had so much energy I couldn't keep up with him. We would take him on a five mile hike and he would look at us like, is that all you got? Mastiffs are about the easiest dogs I have ever owned.

I don't understand the breed debate. Isn't this mastiff forum? Like I said in my first post I'm not here for debates or for rude comments. If this is how you treat all new members I doubt people stay around too long.

 

[Cody]

Umm I never said I was scared of pittbulls or German Shepherds ( I have owned one) I just know that a high prey drive dog doesn't fit with our family dynamics and needs based on my experiences. My German shepherd had so much energy I couldn't keep up with him. We would take him on a five mile hike and he would look at us like, is that all you got? Mastiffs are about the easiest dogs I have ever owned.

I don't understand the breed debate. Isn't this mastiff forum? Like I said in my first post I'm not here for debates or for rude comments. If this is how you treat all new members I doubt people stay around too long.

I am sorry if you feel that people are being rude to you, but you made a comment in regards to a breed that many of us hold dear. A comment that is perpetuated by the media to invoke fear and hatred and comments like the one you made are the reasons that BSL gets legislated. There is no truth or reality to what you said in regards to APBT turning on their owners. Unfortunately if you are getting your information from the media it IS biased. The media has done a fantastic job of turning the APBT into a blood thirsty monster in the eyes of the unknowledgeable. I understand not wanting a dog of that drive, but the initial comment did rub many the wrong way. Yes this is a mastiff forum, many of us here have owned and loved pit bulls and other bully breeds before moving to the mastiffs. We need to protect the other breeds, as it won't be that long before the fear mongering works it's way towards the breeds that we love. As SF said, we need to get this thread back on topic...

 

[Equanimity]

Umm I saw the lady's stitches on her face, close to 100. She told me she was sitting on the couch with her dog next to her and the dog just up and bit her in the face. I only related that based on that experience an first hand stories I have heard from my brother who works for te sheriffs office and my BIL who is an EMT, I will not own a pittbull. I hardly doubt this lady slashed her own face and blamed it on her dog and my family has no reason to lie. Also keep in mind I live in AZ where this breed has been highly adulterated for fighting and protecting drug dealers. Calling me a liar is BS no matter how you word it. I'm not an idiot, nor am I a novice dog owner. I can visually identify almost any breed. So your comments are rude and offensive to me. Just because your in love with a breed does not mean you can tear apart someone who's personal oppinion and experiences differ from yours! I personally do not want this breed.

So please if any one has information on mastiff breesthat would be appropriate for protection from violent drug runners who travel the area please let me know.

 

[Primehns]

You do know that mastiffs have a huge prey drive, Presa canario's, cane corso's, dogo's, have high prey drives, these breeds are way harder to handle than a pitbull. I can identify any breed but don't think i'm a experienced dog owner, i've owned bully breeds and a golden retriever, that's it. A guy i know Breeds Presa canario's, and believe me these dog's are way beyond a pitbull. You do know that mastiffs have attacked to right, it's not just the pits?


Not arguing here, but let's say your right, are you gonna say the millions of pits in America, are plotting to rip open their owners bodies?