favorite looking boerbboel n facts anout them

[DMikeM]

Well I would try to walk them as much as possible but not on pavement so much. parks with grass and dirt and such is better. An apartment dog will surely be a softer looking dog unless exercised well.

 

[grazefull1]

lol softer looking is what im hoping not to get lol my cc almost became a softy thank goodness i cut my working hrs but walks is no problems hmmm..... maybe i should better prepared myself , its seems like an apartment life isnt really suited for a BB in all realness

 

[DMikeM]

Well Jade is a little soft and what I do to keep her "Tuned" is flirt stick work. A lure on a string on a long stick and I have her chase that for 20 to 30 minutes a day. Even though I have a large yard and live in the mountain I work 6 days a week in the winter and 4 to 5 in the summer so she doesn't get the amount of work she really needs. I hope this summer to get her out in the mountains again and let her build up herself. But these dofs are naturally going to be muscular and if you choose the right breeder even an apartment dog will look impressive. But nothing beats good old fashioned excersise for these dogs. If I had a place for it I would get a tredmill for her and me.

 

[grazefull1]

well with my cc's they play with each(tug or war) for 15-25mins, chase each on the open fields(fetch,sticks,balls,rope) n walks (45-90mins n sometimes play with my friends dogs) but for the most part they make each other fit before i had 2 cc's my 1 cc was looking kinda looking soft n squishy lol n didnt help that i had more hrs of work at the time do u think a BB would be more active with another dog?

 

[Dan]

Hi
The dog top left of your pictures is called "Makilikreg Berre".
He is from Belgium I believe and has been a European champion recently.
I nearly bought one of his pups though a UK breeder called "Claymore".
If you check out their website or youtube there is a video called "Makilkreg Berre playing tug".
He actually moves pretty nicely I think.
I agree entirely with DmikeM that the breed should not be bred to such extremes that they are unfit or immobile - but there are also some pretty big and pretty fit dogs out there too

Here's another UK dog from Topguards.
They have some massive - but very capable working dogs.

Enjoy!

 

[grazefull1]

Hi
The dog top left of your pictures is called "Makilikreg Berre".
He is from Belgium I believe and has been a European champion recently.
I nearly bought one of his pups though a UK breeder called "Claymore".
If you check out their website or youtube there is a video called "Makilkreg Berre playing tug".
He actually moves pretty nicely I think.
I agree entirely with DmikeM that the breed should not be bred to such extremes that they are unfit or immobile - but there are also some pretty big and pretty fit dogs out there too

Here's another UK dog from Topguards.
They have some massive - but very capable working dogs.

Enjoy!

wow what a head on that boy very cool n do u have a BB ? n if so how do u keep him/her fit ?

 

[DMikeM]

well with my cc's they play with each(tug or war) for 15-25mins, chase each on the open fields(fetch,sticks,balls,rope) n walks (45-90mins n sometimes play with my friends dogs) but for the most part they make each other fit before i had 2 cc's my 1 cc was looking kinda looking soft n squishy lol n didnt help that i had more hrs of work at the time do u think a BB would be more active with another dog?

This is more than enough work for any breed. You can add hiking or pulling to it if you like to develop some depth of chest, but I think it would still develop a well rounded dog.
Dan I know of the Claymore line, some very nice dogs there. But I am seeing lots of muscle dogs being praised out of the UK that don't fit the profile that this dog should call for.

 

[Dan]

Hi DmikeM
That's a great looking dog.

But if you wanted something really fit (and smart) maybe you should have gone for a bullmastiff?

Hope you can open this link to a video

[video=youtube;5nkjzFGajLQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nkjzFGajLQ[/video]


Apologies in advance to all bullmastiff owners

 

[grazefull1]

gosh its hard find the rite BB, but what does SABT mean mean? i c alot of those ratings from this for 75%-95% but does this mean that a BB is better than others?

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Hi DmikeM
That's a great looking dog.

But if you wanted something really fit (and smart) maybe you should have gone for a bullmastiff?

Hope you can open this link to a video

[video=youtube;5nkjzFGajLQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nkjzFGajLQ[/video]


Apologies in advance to all bullmastiff owners

ive been told by alot of people that the bullmastiff r less active n more on the slower side,these days ?

 

[grazefull1]

Hi DmikeM
That's a great looking dog.

But if you wanted something really fit (and smart) maybe you should have gone for a bullmastiff?

Hope you can open this link to a video

[video=youtube;5nkjzFGajLQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nkjzFGajLQ[/video]


Apologies in advance to all bullmastiff owners

ive been told by alot of people that the bullmastiff r less active n more on the slower side,these days ?

 

[DMikeM]

Not interested in a dog bred with the chance of brachycephalic problems. Also they are not as active and the SAB is a very intelligent that is easy to train. Good thing I actually watched the VID I thought you were being serious.

@grazefull1 SABT is the South African Boerboel Association http://www.sabt-usa.org/Home.aspx

 

[grazefull1]

so BB r score but on how the standard requires compare to the dog n the higher the better, sooooooooooo cool y isnt this idael use in most breeds lol they mite have not gone down hill as fast as they did lol

oh ya i didnt watch the video at first lol

 

[Dan]

Hey Just Kidding!

I do like bullmastiiff's attitude though.

"I'll just walk around the first hurdle and kick the next one over"

"Animalympics!"

 

[grazefull1]

Hey Just Kidding!

I do like bullmastiiff's attitude though.

"I'll just walk around the first hurdle and kick the next one over"

"Animalympics!"

so funny i love the BM answer to the problem lol if u ask me it was smart lol reminds me of my dane lol

 

[Dan]

The dog in the pic is the father of my pup.
He is only 13 weeks old, so he doesn't need/get much exercise yet.
The breeder is Topguard.
Although the dogs are very heavy boned and muscular, they aren't "barrel bodied" at all.
They have big chests and shoulders - but a very definite "waist"

I am quite new to boerboels (but not to dogs) - it seems that there is still a great deal of variation in body types within the breed.
The issue seems to be that the breed associations (SABT and EBBASSA for example) are trying to define what a boerboel is and looks like - so that the breed can be preserved.
The danger obviously is that some people pick up on certain aspects (like large heads for example) and breed for that to the exclusion of the other traits that make up the whole, balanced dog.
There are a good many breeds that have actually suffered as a result of this seeking for "show perfection" - I guess british bulldogs would be a good example.

What I am looking for personally is a heavy boned and imposing dog that is healthy and agile - and most importantly has the distinctive boerboel character.
There are some boerboels out there (and great dogs I am sure) that are just too lightly built and "ridgeback" for my personal preference.
There are other that are just too much like bullmastiffs.

In our family, our last dog (died 15 years ago) was a rottweiler who I loved dearly.
Sadly it seems that everybody else (within and outside the family) didn't share my affection for him.
He was completely uncompromising as a guard, liked nobody but immediate family, and made it his business to intimidate everbody and everything he met
I loved him - but I am really enjoying the boerboel sense of humour and real affection.
He wants to be with you all the time and thrives on attention.

I guess the problem is that although boerboels are what they are because of generations of practical breeding for purpose, as the world moves on and there are fewer outlets for their original occupation, maybe there is a need to "standardise" or define them - which can lead of exaggerations of particular aspects at the expense of the whole.

This is all of course just my "2 cents" worth.

Happily for all of us, the internet - and sites like this mean that you have lots of alternative opinions and expert advice available at your very fingertips !

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Hi DmikeM
Claymore was actually the breeder I settled on initially.
They are very knowledgable and nice people.
Unfortunately, mother nature let us all down, and the planned litter didn't materialise.
I was very lucky in that Topguard had a pup "ready to go" just at the right time
I do agree with you that the fitness, health and agility of the dog are important.
I was actually initially "sold" on boerboels (rather than bullmastiifs) primarily because they are fitter and more agile.
The other big factor over say a dogue de bordeaux is that they are likely to live a lot longer becasue they are healthier.
My old rott died 15 years ago at the age of 10 and I jsut don't want to go throughj that loss again any sooner than I really have to.
At this stage though, I am just loving the character.

 

[Dan]

Hi DmikeM
Claymore was actually the breeder I settled on initially.
They are very knowledgable and nice people.
Unfortunately, mother nature let us all down, and the planned litter didn't materialise.
I was very lucky in that Topguard had a pup "ready to go" just at the right time
I do agree with you that the fitness, health and agility of the dog are important.
I was actually initially "sold" on boerboels (rather than bullmastiifs) primarily because they are fitter and more agile.
The other big factor over say a dogue de bordeaux is that they are likely to live a lot longer becasue they are healthier.
My old rott died 15 years ago at the age of 10 and I jsut don't want to go throughj that loss again any sooner than I really have to.
At this stage though, I am just loving the character.

 

[DMikeM]

@Dan, I like the same SAB that you are talking about. These new mastonians are not Boerboels, they are another breed that needs a new name so that people don't lose this true Farm Dog. I think the Boerboel should be excluded from the show ring just to keep it's nature pure and not redeveloped into something broken and unusable. Look at what happened to the German Shepherd Dog. Totally crippled animal in the ring. I have seen a couple ridgeback type BB's recently and they actually look to be crossed with a Rhodesian Ridgeback or some other speed hound. I would post a picture but I think the owner may take offense if she ever found out. But the 2 dogs are very long, small waisted and a deep sloping chest, not a thick barrel chest like the how the BB should look. Those organizations SABT and EBBASSA need to just go back to the standard of the first 72 dogs and say that's the dog that is the South African Mastiff, The Boerboel.

 

[grazefull1]

@Dan, I like the same SAB that you are talking about. These new mastonians are not Boerboels, they are another breed that needs a new name so that people don't lose this true Farm Dog. I think the Boerboel should be excluded from the show ring just to keep it's nature pure and not redeveloped into something broken and unusable. Look at what happened to the German Shepherd Dog. Totally crippled animal in the ring. I have seen a couple ridgeback type BB's recently and they actually look to be crossed with a Rhodesian Ridgeback or some other speed hound. I would post a picture but I think the owner may take offense if she ever found out. But the 2 dogs are very long, small waisted and a deep sloping chest, not a thick barrel chest like the how the BB should look. Those organizations SABT and EBBASSA need to just go back to the standard of the first 72 dogs and say that's the dog that is the South African Mastiff, The Boerboel.

could u send me the pic of there ridgeback BB pls ?

 

[DMikeM]

Ok you guys, here is one that they are trying to pass off as a Boerboel. Tell me what you think.

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@grazefull1 here you go.
Notice the long legs and swooped chest to belly. Very nice looking dog but not what we are used to in the BB. It could be just a bad picture but it sure looks odd to me.

 

[DMikeM]

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