Should we Stud out our dog?

[WalnutCrest]

You are not "that" person in my mind.

You are one of many uninformed ... the divergence being between you and them is you are at least saying you want to become informed.

Read the Mastiff breed standard and come back with specific questions. If you want the advanced course, go to YouTube and watch the videos posted by Old School Mastiffs with the standard in front of you.

 

[Tunride]

Was I rude? Didn't think so. I see no rudeness here, except the joking? one, 'you want rudeness?' We have tried to answer your questions. I would love to check out your 'Breeder', what is the name, kennel name, net address? I will want another Mastiff in the future and maybe they are close to me and better than the one I purchased Snookums from.

 

[Sadies Mom]

Let's take it one step further...(I am not a breeder, not planning to breed or anything like that), simply speaking from experience....let's say you do decide to breed, you have done ALL required health testing and certifications etc, what would happen if a pup get an inherited disease, that would NOT show up in any health screening and now the owner wants to return the pup? Would you be willing to take that said pup back?

 

[el gato diablo]

You're not 'that' person to me either...in fact quite the opposite, you seem to stick to your guns and hang in there. I certainly respect that in a person...you also seem open minded. I hope you hang around...this forum has change the opinions of thousands of people, whether they lurk and read, or get a bit of a rough introduction like you have, I firmly believe the forums do a great service.

 

[ruthcatrin]

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Then we have to ask our self why are we breeding these two? Personally I think the way a dog looks is the last reason on a short list. The first reason is real temperament followed likely by the drives. Though judging by what passes as good temp in most breeds now, I would say I'm the minority there.....

Cause arguing with Chuck is fun

I don't think looks should be last on the list, any more than temperament should be.

If you're breeding soley for temperment, and are willing to comprimise to far on looks, you're potentally going to end up with a dog who might have a stellar temperament for his breed, but who's so physically un-sound that they just don't have a long life span. (and yah, that happens)

But if you're breeding soley for looks, and aren't paying close attention to the temperment then you're going to get dogs who look lovely, with perfect conformation, and seriously nasty temperaments, and yah, that happens too, cause looks wins ribbons and conformation judges don't care about temperaments *sigh*

a GOOD breeder should be paying attention to both, and any compromise on one or the other should be very very very carefully thought through......

 

[angelbears]

Cause arguing with Chuck is fun

I don't think looks should be last on the list, any more than temperament should be.

If you're breeding soley for temperment, and are willing to comprimise to far on looks, you're potentally going to end up with a dog who might have a stellar temperament for his breed, but who's so physically un-sound that they just don't have a long life span. (and yah, that happens)

But if you're breeding soley for looks, and aren't paying close attention to the temperment then you're going to get dogs who look lovely, with perfect conformation, and seriously nasty temperaments, and yah, that happens too, cause looks wins ribbons and conformation judges don't care about temperaments *sigh*

a GOOD breeder should be paying attention to both, and any compromise on one or the other should be very very very carefully thought through......

Chuck doesn't even own a real fila. Why in the world would you want to argue with someone who has a mongrel.

 

[afidz]

This was not my first post, I DID post an intro a while back and no one seemed to respond. I have also commented on other people's threads. Either way, it doesn't make a difference, I still don't see what the big deal is. Saying that I need a thicker skin to be on this forum or maybe this isn't the place for me? Do you see whats wrong with that statement? I am not over here crying because the forum people are misunderstanding my intentions. I have so many other questions that I wanted to ask before I got my puppy next month but if these are the kinds of responses I am going to get, I think I am just better to figure it out myself.
I don't really understand how this escalated. I don't understand why ruthcatrin's posts get ruder and ruder every time I try to explain myself or justify my intentions. All I am trying to do is learn about mastiffs before i bring mine home. I am trying to get as much information as I can so I can make the best decisions for him. If anyone is actually reading what I am saying, I already said that now that I understand what breeding involves, it is probably not something I am going to pursue. I feel like certain members are TRYING to be mean and are feeding off of all the negative energy already in this thread. I don't have patience for negativity, I don't have the ability to manage the stress that comes along with it, my life is complicated enough with out it. I WOULD however, appreciate any more advice in the next couple weeks so I can transition my dog to my home with ease. If you have anything negative to say, keep it to yourself and move on. I am not the enemy.

 

[afidz]

Here is the link to my first post
About to be a mastiff mommy! - Mastiff Forum!

 

[QY10]

You said no one seemed to respond, but I see a number of responses there...

 

[Th0r]

Are you looking for some kind of apology or for the forum members to beg you to stay or something?
It's just the internet! Get over it and move on....

Sent from my Nexus 5

 

[angelbears]

Are you looking for some kind of apology or for the forum members to beg you to stay or something?
It's just the internet! Get over it and move on....

Sent from my Nexus 5

Amen!

 

[afidz]

Do you know how to read? I don't want an apology I don't want to be begged. I am TRYING to learn about mastiffs from other peoples experiences. I am TRYING to move on but y'all keep getting sh#^/y with me. I shared the link to my introduction to see what people think...can we just PLEASE move on. FFS!

 

[WalnutCrest]

You want to learn?

I have you a couple of things to do. Have you done either one?

 

[afidz]

In re: to the registered names and pedigree and pictures? No I have not, I had it for the original dog we were supposed to get (obviously not the pictures as he never made it) but I have to get that all from the breeder. I was going to call her tomorrow. I think the one grandparents name was Righteous, but I have to double check. The breeders website is northtexasmastiffs.com . If you look on that website she has the health tests posted for all of her dogs
The fathers name is Luke and the mothers name is Minnie I believe. I have pictures of the entire litter, but I am not sure which is mine. She said she was going to send me pictures this week.

 

[Ehl]

I always thought I would want to get a mastiff to breed a time or 2 to further the breed but never wanted to become a breeder until I read about byb / problems w/breeders etc on here. I am looking to get a EM in a year to year and a half from now and sent an email to a local breed and have heard nada. So .... I will keep looking. I have nothing but time. I won't breed my EM unless I fully learn about them / have the time / room and money to do it (/rubs a gene bottle). I won't ever show I never had the inclination to do so but if I got a pup from a breeder that would want to do it for me for betterment I would agree to that possibly. I want an EM over other Mastiff's personally but tbh if I could rescue a puppy/young "Mastiff"(neo/cane corso etc) in my area I would in a heartbeat but I am a sucker / softie. I have Duke who was listed as 1 y/o EM at my local shelter ... found out at vet check he was 3-4 y/o mix, Daisy who we adopted from a local person who had 5 kids and couldn't take care of her ... supposedly a Mastiff mix but she is 6months and 45lbs ... maybe mastiff mix maybe not / shrug. I think mutts are great to rescue / adopt. I didn't realize what a "real" breeder was about until I started reading forums like this one. My grandma used to breed her toy poodle. I thought it was at easy .. she took her back to the breeder she got her from for stud (fee or 1st pup) isn't it that easy ... NO. Just NO, I want a pet dog I won't become a back yard breeder ever.

 

[afidz]

Reading your other posts, Walnutcrest, I have not read that yet. When I am able to get back on my computer I will.
One of the bigger questions I had was about toys. I read in a book I bought that you have to be careful about toys that you give a mastiff because their jaws are so sstrongand a lot of toys can become a choking hazard. What toys do I avoid?
Also I read that is important to not over exercise them in the first 2 years to avoid joint problems. What would be considered over exercised?
I know that Mastiffs food shouldn't have too much protein, it causes them to grow even faster, so when I am purchasing dog food, what ingredients am I looking for? The breeder said she gives the puppies Eukanuba, is that brand okay?
When is the best age to neuter him?

 

[Ehl]

OK for toys just have to watch the size vs the size of mouth at the time lol Lg kongs are good ( sudo indestructible) for a new puppy you want a stuffed animal about his size to crate w/as they are used to sleeping w/littermates. Nylabones / my mutts love squeaky toys so Kongs Large pigs from amazon have lasted 3 weeks so far.

5 min per month of age for Walking I think is the average.

Its not the protein its the calcium /potassium ratio's you have to watch .... dogfoodadvisor.com gives a list of how most brands rate.

GL to you and Post pics

 

[Smokeycat]

For the first few months you don't really need to do any sort of formal exercise. Walks are more for bonding and training than exercise. What you really want to avoid is anything that can cause jarring to their joints. Limit jumping and running especially on hard surfaces such as concrete. You do want to let him run and play on soft surfaces though.
It is best to wait until most of his growth is finished before neutering so 18-24 months at the earliest depending on how fast his line develops.

 

[QY10]

A lot of us feed a raw diet. I personally prefer it over dry food because my dogs have allergies and sensitivities and it gives me peace of mind knowing exactly what I'm feeding them. I'm able to cut out the additives and other unnecessary ingredients. I think they're happier and healthier because of my choice to feed raw.

That being said, when they were on dry food, I fed Orijen 6 fish.


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[WalnutCrest]

These are good questions.

Avoid stairs, if possible.
Don't neuter until 2yrs if possible (18mo at the ABSOLUTE earliest). The longer you can wait, the better for him.
Get your pup to puppy kindergarten. Socialize often.
Be firm, but not harsh. He will work well if he knows you're in charge.
We feed Kirkland's brand (available at Costco) -- it's a great bang-for-the-buck grain free kibble.

I'll make further comments about the breeder on a different reply.